The Bride's New Jerusalem

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The Bride's New Jerusalem

Post by angelaglass » Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:01 am

SlowLearner wrote:I've been thinking about it all day at work today too. So many questions!

I would love to discuss your studies in Revelation, perhaps make a new thread?

With the woman in Revelation, the JWs call her YHWH's wife, the Jerusalem above, but differentiate her to the New Jerusalem who is the bride of Christ. Can someone explain to me all these different brides?
I was going to start a new thread, but decided not. This is the same topic, it would be wrong to split it up as if it isn't related information.
SlowLearner wrote:I've been thinking about it all day at work today too. So many questions!

I would love to discuss your studies in Revelation, perhaps make a new thread?

With the woman in Revelation, the JWs call her YHWH's wife, the Jerusalem above, but differentiate her to the New Jerusalem who is the bride of Christ. Can someone explain to me all these different brides?
The bride in Revelation first shows up in John.

The bride belongs to the bridegroom. The friend of the bridegroom stands by and listens for him, and is overjoyed to hear the bridegroom’s voice. That joy is mine, and it is now complete.

This is John, the best man of Christ the Messiah, and his cousin.

So by his testimony (John 3:28,29) John establishes that the bride is Israel.

This is logic: late Middle English: via Old French logique and late Latin logica from Greek logikē (tekhnē ) ‘(art) of reason,’ from logos ‘word, reason.’

And Jesus said to them, "You do not know what you ask. Are you able to drink the cup that I drink, and to be baptized with the baptism with which I am baptized?"

This is the betrothal.

A woman accepts his proposal when she shares the same cup of wine.

And they said to Him, "We are able." And Jesus said to them, "You will drink the cup that I drink, and you will be baptized with the baptism with which I am baptized,

This was James and John, they were Jesus’ first cousins.

So far we have three chaste bachelors, all Christ’s family.

"But to sit at My right or My left is not Mine to grant. These places belong to those for whom they have been prepared."

We are left to wonder for whom they have been prepared...

"But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother."

While this uses the memory of Sarah to give meaning to the woman, Jerusalem above is specifically not called Sarah.

This is looking forward, For it is written: “Rejoice, O barren woman, who bears no children; break forth and cry aloud, you who have never travailed; because more are the children of the desolate woman, than of her who has a husband.”…

After the betrothal, the marriage covenant, they do not live together. The bride waits for her groom to return in the middle of the night to take her away from the house of her father, and into his home.

She is the desolate woman who has had no children.

Now, the question was if the woman of Revelation 12 is the same as New Jerusalem, or the 144,000 the Lamb's bride...

And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed in the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head.

She is not, technically. She is a sign.

She signifies something.

When she appears, she marks the seven year period of Daniel, broken into two halves, the first "one thousand two hundred sixty days” and the second half of ’the week’ is “a time, and times, and half a time.”

Note: there’s a reason for the difference in description, they’re not both 1260 days, but the second is a period of 1260 plus an extra month of 30, which is why she can only appear at a certain time and be relevant to prophecy.

She is the only woman given a crown by God, and that of stars no less.

Since she’s a sign, she represents Israel but isn’t them.

Later, the scene where our Father walks the bride down the aisle, that’s the 144,000.

This sign is referring to them but it’s not them.

Elaborating, Revelation 12 is a time span which you overlay over the previous and following details.

Therefore, the bride on earth may be sealed by heaven on the day the sign appears.

Why?

Because the timeline of events.

This is logic.

from Greek logikē (tekhnē ) ‘(art) of reason,’ from logos ‘word, reason.’

"And this is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom, but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words."

What are “spiritual truths” and “spiritual words”?

They are not doctrines.

An epiphany (from the ancient Greek ἐπιφάνεια, epiphaneia, "manifestation, striking appearance") is an experience of sudden and striking realization:

And Jesus said to them, "Truly I say to you that in the regeneration, when the Son of Man shall sit down upon His throne of glory, you having followed Me, you also will sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel...
Wikipedia wrote:palingenesia
παλινγενεσίᾳ

3824 paliggenesía (from 3825 /pálin, "again" and 1078 /génesis, "birth, beginning") – properly, the coming of new birth because "born again"; regeneration.

3824 /paliggenesía ("renewal, rebirth") is used twice in the NT referring to: a) the re-birth of physical creation at Christ's return (Advent), which ALERT: ERROR IN DOCTRINE: inaugurates (actually it's the end of the reign, not the inauguration) His millennial kingdom (Mt 19:28; cf. Ro 8:18-25); and b) the re-birth all believers experience at conversion (Tit 3:5).
The bride, you recall, is taken home to heaven, and then is walked ‘down the aisle’ as heavenly New Jerusalem.

She arrives to a new heaven, and a new earth—regenésis.

She is pregnant.

The woman in the sky appears on September 23, 2017 immediately following the blast for the Feast of Trumpets.

Seven years later, a period of 1260 + 1260 + 30 days, as required by scripture is the Day of Atonement 2024.

Palingenesis (/ˌpælɪnˈdʒɛnəsɪs/; or palingenesia) is a concept of rebirth or re-creation, used in various contexts in philosophy, theology, politics, and biology. Its meaning stems from Greek palin, meaning again, and genesis, meaning birth.
Wikipedia wrote:In biology, it is another word for recapitulation—the phase in the development of an organism in which its form and structure pass through the changes undergone in the evolution of the species. In theology, the word can be used to refer to reincarnation and Christian spiritual rebirth symbolized by baptism.
The story of the bride is veiled in scripture.

Revelation is from revelare ‘lay bare’. From Old French revelacion, from Latin revēlātiō ‎(“disclosure”), from revēlō ‎(“to disclose”), re ‎(“again”) + vēlō ‎(“to cover”).

Thus this reveals simply that she gives birth to the new creation.

That is what it means to be ‘born again’.

This is how she fulfills the prophecy of Isaiah 54.

The Bride's New Jerusalem, the love story.
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